Comments on: Inject your kids with a GPS tracking chip http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/ Tracking your vehicle, pet, child, fleet, assets and more, from the author of GPS Mapping Tue, 04 May 2010 00:35:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Liberty's Voice http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-72542 Liberty's Voice Sun, 17 May 2009 04:23:42 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-72542 Over the various posts, the main argument has been whether or not it is worth sacrificing civil rights and privacy for the sake of safety for children. It's a good question. Let's look at the facts. ~ 80,000 children are abducted each year. ~ In order to be tracked, children must walk within a certain distance of a scanner. ~ These devices may cause cancer. ~ These devices may explode. ~ Other people, including criminals can read signals to track your child. ~ These devices can be hacked by other people, including criminals. ~ These devices invade a person's privacy. These are clearly the facts. I believe that it would be great to be able to find children faster in abductions. Those first few hours are very critical. However, looking at the facts, we have to think it through. Parents aren't going to constantly check a scanner to see where their children are. For the first few weeks, or even months, parents might be diligent to check their child's whereabouts hourly. From experience, I know that people would be more careless with checking the devices. Criminals, on the other side, could easily track your child, learning their habits. They could then abduct your child, hurt them, and kill them within hours. Many parents would have no idea until it was too late. Criminals might try to remove the device. The argument brought up earlier was that criminals already do such horrible things to abducted children, that even the smallest chance that the device might work is worth the risk. But, is it really worth causing that much extra pain when the device might not do any good? Also, while this might be the case with many creeps, it is not the case with ex-spouses. Your ex would not normally hurt your child, but would he try to remove the chip, causing your child pain? What if your ex-spouse abducted your child, then injected a chip? Would you want an ex-spouse, or worse yet, a criminal, tracking your child when you couldn't? Children must also be within certain distance of a scanner in order to be tracked. Why would any abductor have your child anywhere near a scanner? The simple fact is that they wouldn't. If there was a tracker in your child, a criminal would be more likely to kill him/her. After all, why would he risk being caught? Hurt the child, kill the child, dump the child- a sick, but very real possibility. Considering this possibility, you must rethink your original opinion on these devices. Would you want to risk the possibility of the device causing cancer, or exploding inside your child's skin? While maybe not a deciding factor, an illness or explosion risk is something worth thinking over. Lastly, civil rights has been brought up. I will not address privacy- this is not a factor worth arguing, in my opinion. I will say this. Remember the possibility that the government could require them for all children in the name of public safety. At first thought, you may be saying," Well, that would save all the children who have uncaring parents." Think again. I will use the following example. Vaccinations were a great idea. They're still a great resource. However, some children have very adverse reactions, occasionally fatal reactions. If a parent knows that their child had an adverse reaction to a vaccination, shouldn't they have the choice to veto any further shots? On many occasions, judges have ordered the shots to be given anyway, putting children at risk. Think this over. If the GPS tracking devices were mass injected, couldn't the government decide to make them mandatory. Think one step further. Why not leave them in adults? Why not track everyone? If you consider this for a minute, you may begin to see that this would be a complete and utter infringement on our American constitutional rights. I will say no more on this subject, for it would take several hundred pages to do it justice. Just consider the consequences. I told you the facts. I told you my opinion. I told you my reasoning. Now there's one thing left to say. In the end, you decide. Make an informed decision, thinking it through from end to end. You've heard the facts, you've heard the arguments. Now, it's your turn. Make your choice. You decide. Over the various posts, the main argument has been whether or not it is worth sacrificing civil rights and privacy for the sake of safety for children. It’s a good question. Let’s look at the facts.

~ 80,000 children are abducted each year.
~ In order to be tracked, children must walk within a certain distance of a scanner.
~ These devices may cause cancer.
~ These devices may explode.
~ Other people, including criminals can read signals to track your child.
~ These devices can be hacked by other people, including criminals.
~ These devices invade a person’s privacy.

These are clearly the facts.

I believe that it would be great to be able to find children faster in abductions. Those first few hours are very critical. However, looking at the facts, we have to think it through.

Parents aren’t going to constantly check a scanner to see where their children are. For the first few weeks, or even months, parents might be diligent to check their child’s whereabouts hourly. From experience, I know that people would be more careless with checking the devices. Criminals, on the other side, could easily track your child, learning their habits. They could then abduct your child, hurt them, and kill them within hours. Many parents would have no idea until it was too late.

Criminals might try to remove the device. The argument brought up earlier was that criminals already do such horrible things to abducted children, that even the smallest chance that the device might work is worth the risk. But, is it really worth causing that much extra pain when the device might not do any good? Also, while this might be the case with many creeps, it is not the case with ex-spouses. Your ex would not normally hurt your child, but would he try to remove the chip, causing your child pain? What if your ex-spouse abducted your child, then injected a chip? Would you want an ex-spouse, or worse yet, a criminal, tracking your child when you couldn’t?

Children must also be within certain distance of a scanner in order to be tracked. Why would any abductor have your child anywhere near a scanner? The simple fact is that they wouldn’t.

If there was a tracker in your child, a criminal would be more likely to kill him/her. After all, why would he risk being caught? Hurt the child, kill the child, dump the child- a sick, but very real possibility. Considering this possibility, you must rethink your original opinion on these devices.

Would you want to risk the possibility of the device causing cancer, or exploding inside your child’s skin? While maybe not a deciding factor, an illness or explosion risk is something worth thinking over.

Lastly, civil rights has been brought up. I will not address privacy- this is not a factor worth arguing, in my opinion. I will say this. Remember the possibility that the government could require them for all children in the name of public safety. At first thought, you may be saying,” Well, that would save all the children who have uncaring parents.” Think again. I will use the following example. Vaccinations were a great idea. They’re still a great resource. However, some children have very adverse reactions, occasionally fatal reactions. If a parent knows that their child had an adverse reaction to a vaccination, shouldn’t they have the choice to veto any further shots? On many occasions, judges have ordered the shots to be given anyway, putting children at risk. Think this over. If the GPS tracking devices were mass injected, couldn’t the government decide to make them mandatory. Think one step further. Why not leave them in adults? Why not track everyone? If you consider this for a minute, you may begin to see that this would be a complete and utter infringement on our American constitutional rights. I will say no more on this subject, for it would take several hundred pages to do it justice. Just consider the consequences.

I told you the facts. I told you my opinion. I told you my reasoning. Now there’s one thing left to say. In the end, you decide. Make an informed decision, thinking it through from end to end. You’ve heard the facts, you’ve heard the arguments. Now, it’s your turn. Make your choice. You decide.

]]> By: all for one and one for all http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-71475 all for one and one for all Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:50:02 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-71475 i would love this im not a perant yet but im married i have a fear if i have kids my husband would kidnap them to pakistan were he is from and i would never see my kids also look at maddie left alone perants drinking dear god foilsh people but one thing if they had a trcking chip on her she would of been found by now and safe at hom. As for privecy for teenagers well when your 18 get it removed your choice your under your mothers roof she will worry for you no matter what age you are a perant is/allways/ and will be your perant so come forward give a list of places that do the chip make it compulsery save our kids and our futher i would love this im not a perant yet but im married i have a fear if i have kids my husband would kidnap them to pakistan were he is from and i would never see my kids also look at maddie left alone perants drinking dear god foilsh people but one thing if they had a trcking chip on her she would of been found by now and safe at hom. As for privecy for teenagers well when your 18 get it removed your choice your under your mothers roof she will worry for you no matter what age you are a perant is/allways/ and will be your perant so come forward give a list of places that do the chip make it compulsery save our kids and our futher

]]> By: Justin Jefferson http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-70047 Justin Jefferson Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:20:20 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-70047 Second, for those who are still against such a technology, to be clear, this technology is not desired nor is it going to stop predators from taking a child. However, this will increase the chance of a child coming back home. In the world we live in, yes such a device implanted into the skin would eventually be able to be detected and forcibly removed. Buts lets be real, on average it is safe to say that a person who kidnaps a child, would typically do it on impulse. As in the same way a thief would just steal something just because it’s laying right in front of them. They saw the opportunity and they took it. And futuristically with a device such as this, parents will be able to have the opportunity to take it back. This device is not desired nor would be designed to harm a child, but rather ensure a higher possibility that a child can be returned to their parents. Because in all due respect, don’t just cast aside this device just because you may think it “WILL” cause cancer, are you a doctor that’s studying this? Or that a child won’t be able to sneak out the house anymore, please spare me. If you truly love your child and was a perfect parent then I would say you don’t need this device. But parents aren’t perfect, and it only takes one time to lose your only chance. So think about your children or a child you know, and that one time was them. Wouldn’t you want to come home? Second, for those who are still against such a technology, to be clear, this technology is not desired nor is it going to stop predators from taking a child. However, this will increase the chance of a child coming back home. In the world we live in, yes such a device implanted into the skin would eventually be able to be detected and forcibly removed. Buts lets be real, on average it is safe to say that a person who kidnaps a child, would typically do it on impulse. As in the same way a thief would just steal something just because it’s laying right in front of them. They saw the opportunity and they took it. And futuristically with a device such as this, parents will be able to have the opportunity to take it back. This device is not desired nor would be designed to harm a child, but rather ensure a higher possibility that a child can be returned to their parents. Because in all due respect, don’t just cast aside this device just because you may think it “WILL” cause cancer, are you a doctor that’s studying this? Or that a child won’t be able to sneak out the house anymore, please spare me. If you truly love your child and was a perfect parent then I would say you don’t need this device. But parents aren’t perfect, and it only takes one time to lose your only chance. So think about your children or a child you know, and that one time was them. Wouldn’t you want to come home?

]]> By: Justin Jefferson http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-70046 Justin Jefferson Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:19:38 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-70046 If I may, I would like to place my two cents in. First off, I will come straight out and say that I am not a parent; in fact one can say that I am merely a college student. Yet, living in this world for the past 20 years, I've seen many things pertaining to this subject. I understand the feeling towards both sides in that, many parents feel that they need this technology in order to have reassurance that their kids can be located, and others feel that essentially this is an attack on a child rights and may lead to future defects or diseases. However, if such a product did become public, I would believe that such a high, demanding device wouldn't be releases to the general public if it was going to cause harm to a child. Normally such devices would first be tested as military use. Therefore, the only argument against this technology is that, is it an attack on a child’s right of privacy. I believe that it is not. This is because if a child wanted to sneak out of the house, this technology wouldn’t stop them, but only allow them to face the responsibility for disobeying their parents. Hence, another way for a parent to safely raise their child, which I believe is bases on an individual preference that bystanders have judgment on unless there is harm to the child. If I may, I would like to place my two cents in. First off, I will come straight out and say that I am not a parent; in fact one can say that I am merely a college student. Yet, living in this world for the past 20 years, I’ve seen many things pertaining to this subject. I understand the feeling towards both sides in that, many parents feel that they need this technology in order to have reassurance that their kids can be located, and others feel that essentially this is an attack on a child rights and may lead to future defects or diseases. However, if such a product did become public, I would believe that such a high, demanding device wouldn’t be releases to the general public if it was going to cause harm to a child. Normally such devices would first be tested as military use. Therefore, the only argument against this technology is that, is it an attack on a child’s right of privacy. I believe that it is not. This is because if a child wanted to sneak out of the house, this technology wouldn’t stop them, but only allow them to face the responsibility for disobeying their parents. Hence, another way for a parent to safely raise their child, which I believe is bases on an individual preference that bystanders have judgment on unless there is harm to the child.

]]> By: Pablo http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-69088 Pablo Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:06:00 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-69088 Is there a company that offers this???? Is there a company that offers this????

]]> By: Mike http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-68874 Mike Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:58:28 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-68874 I am a GPS engineer. I would caution all who are considering this type of thing not to get too excited about it. While this may be a great idea for a number of reasons, it does set a false sense of security. For example - Those that may "sleep easier" as I have read here believe that all they have to do is look at a screen and find their child. While this is true for the most part, I think many of you folks think this is a magic wand, its not. A GPS of this type (or any) type for that matter must have "A VIEW OF THE SKY". If you assume for a moment your child has been abducted, chances are slim they will be "out in the open" and then - this is only AFTER you decide to look for them. What if they have been abducted and are now in some danger? Most likely, they are "undercover" or inside away from a view of the sky. You'll pay for this chip and then its service to calm your fears only to have them greatly fail when you discover you don't have signal on them. As in most cases like here in the states - When these horrible things happen they usually kill the kid - Only then, do they deposit the body some place and again - it will most likely be buried. Great for campers - Just don't get your hopes up for more then that until the new Generation of GPS location devices come to market, which I am working on now. After clearing some patent hurdles, I think you'll agree as well. - Feel free to email me with questions. thezitos@rochester.rr.com I am a GPS engineer. I would caution all who are considering this type of thing not to get too excited about it. While this may be a great idea for a number of reasons, it does set a false sense of security. For example – Those that may “sleep easier” as I have read here believe that all they have to do is look at a screen and find their child. While this is true for the most part, I think many of you folks think this is a magic wand, its not. A GPS of this type (or any) type for that matter must have “A VIEW OF THE SKY”. If you assume for a moment your child has been abducted, chances are slim they will be “out in the open” and then – this is only AFTER you decide to look for them. What if they have been abducted and are now in some danger? Most likely, they are “undercover” or inside away from a view of the sky. You’ll pay for this chip and then its service to calm your fears only to have them greatly fail when you discover you don’t have signal on them. As in most cases like here in the states – When these horrible things happen they usually kill the kid – Only then, do they deposit the body some place and again – it will most likely be buried. Great for campers – Just don’t get your hopes up for more then that until the new Generation of GPS location devices come to market, which I am working on now. After clearing some patent hurdles, I think you’ll agree as well. – Feel free to email me with questions. thezitos@rochester.rr.com

]]> By: jjbel http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-67993 jjbel Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:30:51 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-67993 Marli, I think you should tell the parents of children who have been taken by predators that the chances of it happening are miniscule. Its 1/17,000, 000 chance of winning the lottery in the UK, at least 1 person wins it every week (actually twice a week) I cant see how anyone wouldnt want to protect their child if it was possible to do so. As for there not being more peadophiles about now compared to before, maybe not. But the internet has made it easier for them to organise themselves globally and make contact with their victims, so it is more frequent now than before. And the press should make a major story out of every child that is taken and globally, so this sick act can be seen and tackled at evey point. Marli, I think you should tell the parents of children who have been taken by predators that the chances of it happening are miniscule.
Its 1/17,000, 000 chance of winning the lottery in the UK, at least 1 person wins it every week (actually twice a week) I cant see how anyone wouldnt want to protect their child if it was possible to do so.
As for there not being more peadophiles about now compared to before, maybe not. But the internet has made it easier for them to organise themselves globally and make contact with their victims, so it is more frequent now than before. And the press should make a major story out of every child that is taken and globally, so this sick act can be seen and tackled at evey point.

]]> By: Marli http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-66998 Marli Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:24:09 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-66998 This use of this technology has filled me with dread since I first heard of GPS trackers (I sell them by the way). Cant anyone remember what it was like to be a child, a teenager? Sneaking out of the house, coming home late, drinking (or whatever was your vice) at places you weren't aloud to go to with people your parents disapproved of. Getting into trouble and LEARNING FROM YOUR MISTAKES. Gaining your parents trust eventually and one day leaving the nest with some lessons hard learnt. How much would that have taken place if Mum and Dad were at home tracking your GPS location? Any how many Mum and Dads can really say they could resist the temptation when snookems decides not to come home on time? The world is not 'getting worse'. Crime is getting lower, there are not more paedophiles now than there used to be. Why on earth would there be, something in the water?? The only difference is sensationalist media that drags the few stories about child abductions out for months and months. Madelline McCann, sheez, how long did they drag that one on for? One child in a country of 70000000. And we lap it up because we want to live in fear maybe, I dont know. Statistically the chance of a child being abducted by some masked stranger are miniscule. I think how many of my early exploits would never have happened if I was tracked like this. Using the same logic we would ban our kids from cars because they might die in a crash (much much more likely). But that is not the logic we are using here. Injecting a chip into a child would be a decision based on fear that would serve ourselves more than the child and descisions based of fear seldom stand to reason. Swim in the sea, dont be scared of sharks. This use of this technology has filled me with dread since I first heard of GPS trackers (I sell them by the way). Cant anyone remember what it was like to be a child, a teenager? Sneaking out of the house, coming home late, drinking (or whatever was your vice) at places you weren’t aloud to go to with people your parents disapproved of. Getting into trouble and LEARNING FROM YOUR MISTAKES. Gaining your parents trust eventually and one day leaving the nest with some lessons hard learnt. How much would that have taken place if Mum and Dad were at home tracking your GPS location? Any how many Mum and Dads can really say they could resist the temptation when snookems decides not to come home on time? The world is not ‘getting worse’. Crime is getting lower, there are not more paedophiles now than there used to be. Why on earth would there be, something in the water?? The only difference is sensationalist media that drags the few stories about child abductions out for months and months. Madelline McCann, sheez, how long did they drag that one on for? One child in a country of 70000000. And we lap it up because we want to live in fear maybe, I dont know. Statistically the chance of a child being abducted by some masked stranger are miniscule. I think how many of my early exploits would never have happened if I was tracked like this. Using the same logic we would ban our kids from cars because they might die in a crash (much much more likely). But that is not the logic we are using here. Injecting a chip into a child would be a decision based on fear that would serve ourselves more than the child and descisions based of fear seldom stand to reason. Swim in the sea, dont be scared of sharks.

]]> By: Lucache http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-65823 Lucache Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:35:24 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-65823 Hi everyone, ive read everyones messages. there all great. im going to be up front like that one guy, im 13years old. anyways iunderstand how you people could want something like this. but frankly, i think its the mark of the beast the bible talks about. the media will offer it to the world i think soon and will tell everyone how its so safe and blah blah blah, and probably most of the world wil be decieved and take it. then what will happen is they will start forcing it on people and whoever doesnt take it wont be able to buy or sell, go in any federal building, travel, anything like that because this chip will have everyones info on it. some of you might be upset at me and think nothing could possibly go wrong with it. look at the titanic for instance. anyways all im saying is please dont be decieved by it. dont take the mark of the beast. everyone go to youtube and watch "freedom to facishism" it might not be how it is spelled. Hi everyone, ive read everyones messages. there all great. im going to be up front like that one guy, im 13years old. anyways iunderstand how you people could want something like this. but frankly, i think its the mark of the beast the bible talks about. the media will offer it to the world i think soon and will tell everyone how its so safe and blah blah blah, and probably most of the world wil be decieved and take it. then what will happen is they will start forcing it on people and whoever doesnt take it wont be able to buy or sell, go in any federal building, travel, anything like that because this chip will have everyones info on it. some of you might be upset at me and think nothing could possibly go wrong with it. look at the titanic for instance.
anyways all im saying is please dont be decieved by it. dont take the mark of the beast.
everyone go to youtube and watch “freedom to facishism” it might not be how it is spelled.

]]> By: M. Scott http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/comment-page-2/#comment-65731 M. Scott Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:46:06 +0000 http://gpstrackingsystems.biz/inject-your-kids-with-a-gps-tracking-chip/44/#comment-65731 Lets ask only the people who have actually lost a child. Do you really feel at least they had their freedom or lets leave it up to God. It is up to a parent to take care of every necesity of their child. There are many freedoms we do not give children to keep them safe. I respect all commennts, but pretend your child became missing one hour ago then type how you feel! Lets ask only the people who have actually lost a child. Do you really feel at least they had their freedom or lets leave it up to God.

It is up to a parent to take care of every necesity of their child. There are many freedoms we do not give children to keep them safe.

I respect all commennts, but pretend your child became missing one hour ago then type how you feel!

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